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Scott White

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Name: Scott White | Gender: M | Member Since February 8, 2008
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Lackey and tiers revisited

Posted on: March 16, 2008 1:24 am
Edited on: May 8, 2008 7:55 pm
 
Well, I can't sidestep the obvious today.

Angels SP John Lackey will miss at least the first month of the season with triceps tendinitis -- and possibly more, depending on the team's re-evaluation of him at that point. Unlike Prince Fielder's conversion to tofu (which I hopefully tackled yesterday), this news should send shock waves through the Fantasy community because a presumed ace now no longer fits the description.

I mean it: Lackey, a 19-game winner last year who finished third in Cy Young voting, now has the rug pulled completely out from under him. And triceps tendinitis is such a vague injury with such an uncertain prognosis that I almost expect that early timetable of one month to extend even longer. I don't mean to sound like an alarmist, and I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I wouldn't fall out of my chair if this "tendinitis" developed into a season-ending injury at some point. This isn't the case of Yovani Gallardo, who suffered a freak injury with a clear resolution and recovery (and to his leg, not his arm). Lackey has me running scared.

How scared? Well, based on what I know right now, I have to drop him from my second to my third tier of starting pitchers -- in the A.J. Burnett/Francisco Liriano range, because he comes with similar upside and risk. I reserve the right to drop him even further, though, and if push came to shove in an actual draft, I could see myself taking John Maine over him.

In light of this injury news, now seems like an appropriate time to revisit my tiers, offering you the latest update from the most recent developments in spring training. Also, with the final installment of my Draft Day Dos and Don'ts series currently featured on the site, I want to make my tiers easier for the newcomers to find.

Anchors away.

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In case you don't know what I mean by "tiers," I'll direct you to two of my columns: Draft Day Dos and Don'ts, Part I and Draft Day Dos and Don'ts, Part IV. In fact, you should just go read the whole Draft Day Dos and Don'ts series. I won't get paid more money if you do, but I'll feel awfully good inside.

Now, I want to clear up a few issues on these tiers before I go right into them. Obviously, I created them from my own personal rankings, not the CBSSports.com defaults. I encourage you to create your own tiers based on your own rankings, but if you want a guide, you now have mine.

I tried to make my rankings as generic as possible, meaning they don't appeal to any particular scoring system. I would obviously fine-tune them based on the scoring system, and certain players would make dramatic leaps higher or lower. With these tiers, I also intended to appeal to the majority, meaning those who play in 10-to-12-team mixed leagues. If you play in a deeper league, you obviously need to go deeper with your tiers.

The last tier at each position doesn't necessarily include all guys who I consider more or less equal to each other. Theoretically, the draft should end somewhere in the middle of that final tier, and I wanted to tack onto it a few guys who I make a point to keep an eye on, no matter the league format.

I included DH-only players at first base because tiers only make sense at positions you need. Obviously, you don't need a DH because you can play any position at DH. Still, those DH-only players have value, so I wanted to include them in the tiers in a way that would gauge their value appropriately to everyone else. Grouping them with the first basemen seemed the most logical choice. Based on the depth at the position, your DH most often ends up a first baseman if not a DH-only player.

And on a final note, as you can see from the time of post, I put together these tiers early in the morning, after a long night of writing updates. I quite conceivably could have omitted somebody. Then again, I quite conceivably could have omitted him on purpose. If you see a glaring omission, let me know. I'll either add the missing player or explain to you why I didn't include him in the first place.

Now, my fellow tough guys, let's tier it up.

Catcher
The Elite
Victor Martinez, Russell Martin
The Next-Best Things (I have yet to draft from this particular tier at this particular position.)
Brian McCann, Joe Mauer, Jorge Posada
The Fallback Options
Kenji Johjima, Geovany Soto, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, J.R. Towles, Chris Snyder, Bengie Molina, Ramon Hernandez, Jason Varitek, Dioner Navarro, Ronny Paulino, Carlos Ruiz, Gregg Zaun, John Buck, Kurt Suzuki

First base
The Elite
Prince Fielder, David Ortiz
The Near-Elite
Albert Pujols, Ryan Howard, Mark Teixeira, Lance Berkman, Travis Hafner, Justin Morneau
The Next-Best Things
Carlos Pena, Gary Sheffield, Derrek Lee, Adrian Gonzalez, Victor Martinez, Jim Thome, James Loney, Todd Helton, Nick Swisher, Paul Konerko
The Fallback Options
Kevin Youkilis, Carlos Guillen, Alex Gordon, Nick Johnson, Conor Jackson, Ryan Garko, Frank Thomas, Casey Kotchman, Carlos Delgado, Daric Barton, Adam A. LaRoche, Joey Votto

Second base
The Elite
Chase Utley
The Near-Elite
Brandon Phillips, B.J. Upton, Brian Roberts, Ian Kinsler, Robinson Cano
The Fallback Options
Rickie Weeks, Dan Uggla, Kelly Johnson
Adequate Middle Infielders
Placido Polanco, Jeff Kent, Dustin Pedroia, Aaron Hill, Howie Kendrick, Orlando Hudson, Yunel Escobar, Ty Wigginton, Mark Ellis, Kazuo Matsui

Third base
The Elite
Alex Rodriguez, David Wright, Miguel Cabrera
The Next-Best Things
Ryan J. Braun, Chipper Jones, Aramis Ramirez, Garrett Atkins
The Fallback Options (I have yet to draft from this particular tier at this particular position.)
Chone Figgins, Ryan Zimmerman, Mike Lowell, Adrian Beltre
Late-Round Sleepers
Alex Gordon, Troy Glaus, Evan Longoria, Kevin Kouzmanoff, Hank Blalock, Chase Headley, Josh Fields, Yunel Escobar, Mark Reynolds, Scott Rolen, Edwin Encarnacion

Shortstop
The Elite
Hanley Ramirez, Jose B. Reyes, Jimmy Rollins
The Next-Best Things (I have only once drafted from this particular tier at this particular position, and I immediately regretted it.)
Derek Jeter, Troy Tulowitzki, Miguel Tejada, Carlos Guillen
The Fallback Options
Khalil Greene, J.J. Hardy, Rafael Furcal, Edgar Renteria, Michael Young, Orlando Cabrera, Stephen Drew, Yunel Escobar, Jhonny Peralta, Julio Lugo

Outfield
The Elite
Matt Holliday, Vladimir Guerrero
The Near-Elite
Magglio Ordonez, Lance Berkman, Carlos N. Lee, Carlos Beltran, Carl Crawford, Alfonso Soriano, Curtis Granderson, Grady Sizemore, Ichiro Suzuki
The Next-Best Things
Alex Rios, Manny Ramirez, Nick Markakis, Bobby Abreu, Corey C. Hart, Adam Dunn, B.J. Upton, Nick Swisher, Hideki Matsui
The Fallback Options
Brad Hawpe, Hunter Pence, Chris B. Young, Eric Byrnes, Jason Bay, Torii Hunter, Vernon Wells, Jeremy Hermida, Josh Hamilton, Matt Kemp, Delmon Young, Juan Pierre, Pat Burrell, Aaron Rowand, Shane Victorino, Jermaine Dye, Jeff Francoeur, Ken Griffey, Raul Ibanez
The Overrated and Late-Round Sleepers
Kosuke Fukudome, Andruw Jones, Jack Cust, Rick Ankiel, Josh Fields, Melky Cabrera, J.D. Drew, Johnny Damon, Lastings Milledge, Josh Willingham, Jacoby Ellsbury, Justin Upton, Corey Patterson, Michael Bourn, Willy Taveras, Michael Cuddyer, Jose Guillen, Garret Anderson, Nate McLouth, Milton Bradley, Luke Scott, Elijah Dukes, Jerry Owens, Carlos Gomez, Mike Cameron, Moises Alou, Ryan Church, Austin Kearns, Jason Kubel, Carlos Quentin

Starting pitcher
The Elite
Johan Santana, Jake Peavy, Erik Bedard, Brandon Webb, C.C. Sabathia, Justin Verlander, Josh Beckett
The Near-Elite
Aaron Harang, Cole Hamels, Roy Oswalt, Dan Haren, Roy Halladay, John Smoltz
The Next-Best Things
Daisuke Matsuzaka, James Shields, Scott Kazmir, Felix Hernandez, Brett Myers, A.J. Burnett, Javier Vazquez, Ben Sheets, Chris R. Young, Fausto Carmona, Yovani Gallardo, Francisco Liriano, John Lackey, Carlos Zambrano, Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum
The Fallback Options
John Maine, Chad Billingsley, Jered Weaver, Dustin McGowan, Brad Penny, Adam Wainwright, Jeremy Bonderman, Rich Hill, Ted Lilly, Chien-Ming Wang, Ian Snell, Oliver Perez, Jeff Francis
The Overrated and Late-Round Sleepers
Phil Hughes, Tim Hudson, Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe, Clay Buchholz, Dontrelle Willis, Randy Johnson, Gil Meche, Zack Greinke, Joe Blanton, Rich Harden, Ian Kennedy, Hiroki Kuroda, Micah Owings, Tom Gorzelanny, Ervin Santana, Ubaldo Jimenez, Mark Buehrle, Andy Pettitte, Jason Schmidt, Bronson Arroyo, Jason Bergmann, Matt Garza, Wandy Rodriguez, Kelvim Escobar, Barry Zito, John Patterson, Andy Sonnanstine, Boof Bonser

Closers
The Elite (I have yet to draft from this particular tier at this particular position.)
Francisco Rodriguez, J.J. Putz, Takashi Saito, Jonathan Papelbon, Mariano Rivera, Joe Nathan, Billy Wagner
The Next-Best Things
Francisco Cordero, Jose Valverde, Bobby Jenks, Trevor Hoffman, Rafael Soriano, Manny Corpas, Jason Isringhausen
The Fallback Options
Brad Lidge, Joakim Soria, B.J. Ryan, Matt Capps, Chad Cordero, Huston Street
Last Resorts (I have yet to settle for one of these guys in a mixed league.)
Eric Gagne, Brandon Lyon, Kevin Gregg, Troy Percival, Brian Wilson, Joe Borowski, Todd Jones, George Sherrill

That's all for now.
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Posted on: March 17, 2008 11:54 am

Lackey and tiers revisited

Scott, just wanted to show you the positive results of your tier system in my most recent draft where I decided that (for the most part) I would stick with your tiers until the late-middle rounds where I would be required to draft some middle relievers as the league is a 6x6 scoring with OBP and Holds being the added categories.

Just to give you some basic background, my league is a 12 team, H2H league with 6x6 scoring. I drafted in with the 3rd pick and of course this was a snake style draft.

I'm hoping for some positive commentary on what went right/wrong in this draft. Of course it is tough to really comment without seeing the entire leagues draft results, but give it a shot. Thanks!

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" class="simpletable"> <thead> <tr> <th class="first">Round</th> <th>Pick</th> <th>Player</th> <th>Position</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">1.</td> <td class="pick">(3)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">David Wright</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">3B</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">2.</td> <td class="pick">(22)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Vladimir Guerrero</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">OF</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">3.</td> <td class="pick">(27)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Lance Berkman</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">1B,OF</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">4.</td> <td class="pick">(46)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">C.C. Sabathia</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">SP</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">5.</td> <td class="pick">(51)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Justin Verlander</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">SP</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">6.</td> <td class="pick">(70)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Aaron Harang</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">SP</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">7.</td> <td class="pick">(75)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Roy Oswalt</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">SP</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">8.</td> <td class="pick">(94)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Brad Hawpe</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">OF</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">9.</td> <td class="pick">(99)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Bobby Jenks</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">RP</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">10.</td> <td class="pick">(118)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Nick Swisher</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">1B,OF</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">11.</td> <td class="pick">(123)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Matt Cain</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">SP</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">12.</td> <td class="pick">(142)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Rafael Soriano</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">RP</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">13.</td> <td class="pick">(147)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Joakim Soria</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">RP</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">14.</td> <td class="pick">(166)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Tony Peña</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">RP</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="first">15.</td> <td class="pick">(171)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Orlando Cabrera</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">SS</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td class="first">16.</td> <td class="pick">(190)</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="player">Scot Shields</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" class="position last">RP</td> &l